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[00:00:00] Introduction: Welcome to the #PirateBroadcast™, where we interview #interestingpeople doing #interestingthings. Where you can expand your connections, your community, #kindnessiscool and #smilesarefree. Let’s get this party started.w

[00:00:10] Russ Johns: Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the party. I'm so glad that you're here. And if you're watching on the replay, thank you. All the #gratitude in the world. And if you can, smash that like button and subscribe to all the channels and the social media, all that kind of good stuff. Allows us to show up on a regular basis. I'd love it. And we are going to be talking a little bit about something that is near and dear to my heart, and probably you might have an interest in, or at least an appreciation for, and that's podcasting because Angie is joining us all the way from London to join in, have a conversation about learning about podcasting and I first and foremost, thank you so much for being here Angie, how are you today?

[00:00:53] Angie S: I'm good. Thank you so much for having me, Russ. This is a great pleasure. I thank you.

[00:00:57] Russ Johns: We've been doing this for a while. We got a few hundred episodes out there. We've got a pretty strong community. Ronald Earl Wilshire in the house. Ronald Earl Wilsher. We had an amazing podcast years ago called RNR. What was it called, Ronald? What was it called? I don't know what it was called. I forget. RNR something. I'll have to go back in the archives and look. And the reality is I started podcasting probably in 2014, 13. And then I taught at podcast movement and done a few things taught podcasts workshops and things like that, but you're launching a new course. And so how did you get into podcasting? Tell us the backstory on that Angie.

[00:01:46] Angie S: I've always loved audio. So before I even learned about podcasting, I was always listening to audio books, when I was cleaning, doing chores and then I found out about podcasting. Maybe not that long ago, just a few years, maybe four years ago or something. Absolutely got hooked and I always knew I wanted to do one, but I wasn't sure about what. And so for a whole year, I was just like, ah, maybe this, no, maybe that I was like, nothing was giving me the spot and one morning, a Sunday morning in 2018 in December, I woke up and went to the bathroom to get ready, brush my teeth and stuff and there's a mirror. I just went, can I swear on this?

[00:02:27] Russ Johns: Yeah.

[00:02:28] Angie S: Okay. I just looked at myself in the mirror and I just went "I'm too old for this shit" and it was just obviously about a few things that had happened over the leading few months up to this. I live by myself. So the effect it was just me who, basically heard that. And in that moment, I was like, I knew exactly what my personal podcast is going to be about. And it was simply at the beginning, it was obviously very vague, but it was simply it came from this place of I cannot believe that I'm learning these things. After 40 that I feel like, why did no one tell me this at 18? Like why did that not notice how come it's took me so long? And it came from that. And then on that same day, I was like, that's it? And I just put out a few posts on Facebook in Facebook groups that was part of, and to ask for, guests to come on and tell their stories or share the experiences or, the expertise on different topics. And that's how it all started. And yeah, I'm still at it and I still love it.

[00:03:24] Russ Johns: You're still growing. Still growing. And I'm creating a course on... I have a course going right now on using video in your marketing and lead generation and stuff like that. And I love creating courses. I love teaching and I love sharing and one of the things that you're going to be doing is creating a course. You're in the process of creating a course on microphones? What is it?

[00:03:48] Angie S: So this is a bit of a shorter course. Cause I have this larger courses, like a group coaching where I get people from zero to launching their podcast in six weeks. But this one that this way it's actually already made, but it's on the website, just say in a couple of days it will be based all about concepting. And so there's how to create a concept and continuously generate ideas for episodes. And at the back of it, there's also just like a micro course on microphone, but just have the basics so that you know what to look out for. And so that you don't get so faze every time you're out there shopping for a mic or you get distracted on the phone and telling you to buy a 2000 pound microphone, when you're just starting out. Microphone was 50 quid when I started and I'm actually still using it. So basically if you know how to use a microphone, you understand the basic behind it, or you don't even have to be...

[00:04:38] Russ Johns: It doesn't have to be expensive.

[00:04:40] Angie S: Yeah, exactly. Especially when you're starting out. When you finding out if you even love it.

[00:04:44] Russ Johns: It. I want to say hi, Gabe's in the house. Gabe. I love Gabe is a live streamer he's on here on a regular basis and doing some great work out in the Lincoln community online community and in Marcia Reece, welcome. Super Thursday morning with my pirate buddies. Stitches come out today. Woohoo. Awesome. Thank you so much. Let's connect today, Marcia, after you get done and let's come up with some strategies and plans. Elize, South Africa. Good morning, everyone. Thank you so much for being here, Tim. Tim Lorrie. Good morning, Tim. Tim, the amazing producer. Hi Russ and Angie. Good morning from Northeast Pennsylvania. Thank you so much. And then Howard Kaufman is in the room. Top of the morning. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. So podcasting, Angie is something that I've been, like I mentioned, passionate about, and there's a lot of different areas and lot of different things. So are there any trends that you noticed that are really taking off or evolving? I know, true crime and some of those are really at the top of the list after, what was the one that... Serial was really a popular one that kind of launched a lot of podcasts, but it was, is there anything that you see that is unique to the industry these days?

[00:06:08] Angie S: I don't actually really follow trends. Like I don't really know what is trending. I don't look at what's at the top of the charts. But because I think with podcasting, you can just do it anywhere you want to it has to really be something that fires you up. You can find a niche. Like I know someone who has a podcast on ladybugs. Never thought you could do that, but that's making a niche and she's great at it, so I don't really care about the trends. I'm just terrible with stuff like that. I never know what's down with the kids. I'm not cool. But I'll say I do love true crime. Like I do listen to a lot of I think Bridget scandal is amazing. And oh, there's no, that was just forgot now. They, yeah. Anyway. Oh we just kinda, I'm not a monster by BBC sounds is what I was gonna, if you've seen that one, heard that one. I haven't. No, it's fantastic. It's really good. Really good reporting. And British scandal is obviously based on different scandals in the UK, so start with the Livitnenko affair and then it goes on to many different genres. But the great thing about it is that the people who... great. Thank you, Tim. No, the British scandal. They also just a hilarious with it. The way they tell the narrative, the story is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. So yeah, there's many different ways of doing true crime. Oh, Dr. Death that said doctor death. Oh my God. Yeah. Wow.

[00:07:30] Russ Johns: So as courses go, and you've been doing this a while, so it's probably, are you producing shows for other people as well?

[00:07:37] Angie S: No, I'm not actually. Okay. But that could be, I have been thinking, cause that could obviously be, that could be a great thing to do. That could be fun. But yeah, no, I haven't. No, I'm not. Are you?

[00:07:51] Russ Johns: Yeah I've produced hundreds of shows for people.

[00:07:54] Angie S: I've just asked a dumb question then, didn't I?

[00:07:56] Russ Johns: There are no dumb questions here. We're pirates. Come on. Relax. You know the funny thing about it is it's so evolving. It's just like you said, there's no, you don't have to follow trends to really know that it's something special. And I, we have this opportunity. Share a message. So what are you excited about then in the near future on podcasting and what you're doing? What is it that you're excited about? Besides, you're doing your courses, you're doing some things and you're working towards a goal. What is it that really drives you and gets you up in the morning and says, wow, I gotta do this. I can't help it. I can't help myself.

[00:08:34] Angie S: Yeah. There are two different things. So one is if I was to answer for my podcasts, like I just, I get really excited by the kind of people I can get on because it's mainly interview, interview based. And so I do get really excited about who I can get on and try and find people and find the ones that, like last week I did a very off topic, that topic that I don't usually do. And it's this journalist who has this podcast in Denmark, on UAPs, which, used to be called UFO's. And he has all these scientists and fighter pilots and ex-government people come on and he interviews them and his co-host is national physicist. So I had humongous these podcasts is absolutely amazing. It's in Danish. I don't know if people would know his Flint, which means flying saucer but that kind of stuff, I love it because it's like, I love and I love science, so that's like the perfect mix, having him on. But yeah, that's the kind of stuff that really gets me excited just to do whatever I actually want within obviously boundaries of the law. Can't just talk about anything on podcasts. Unfortunately, there are restrictions of course, but yeah, that really gets me excited. And the other thing is I really love seeing what podcasts people come up with. There's one student, she teaches she's a coach for sober coach and she does a podcast on that and I think that's fantastic. And she's fun. People often think sober is boring, but she really is not boring. And someone else they want on, how to quit. And she's fantastic as well, show the staff, the psychology behind quitting. And so things like that, it's oh my God, that's just like more podcasts I can listen to. So I'm not so bad.

[00:10:06] Russ Johns: Well there's more podcasts than we can listen to them. I know that. So it's really cool. If you want to hear an amazing audio consultant for podcasting, you need to talk to Tanner Campbell. Rob, put him on the list. Thanks for the heads up, Gabe. I really appreciate that. And he says, I really dig Angie's accent.

[00:10:27] Angie S: And again, is it actually Gabby? Because this has a, like the French accent, the French II. So I don't know if that's, if it's then if you can say yes or no, get Gabe or Gabby, is it Gabby? Yes or no?

[00:10:42] Russ Johns: I don't know Gabe. He's Gabe to me. I don't know Gabriel, but I really love the idea that we can actually capture some of these stories and capture some of the messages. And, you can have just like a an interview style or you can have a talking head, you can explain videos, you can actually do a lot of different things. So as you go through these podcasts and producing them so what made you want to start courses? Why would you want to start courses? There's a lot of moving pieces in that thing.

[00:11:14] Angie S: Yeah. Actually I never thought I would be doing courses. What happened was the pandemic and I was made redundant in my job. And so I had to like pivot and I was like, The market was it was so quiet, the job market, when they just hit the pandemic just head, it was really, for me, there was just nothing. There was no, there wasn't much, and at that time you couldn't really just go out and get a job in a restaurant or cafe, which I did later on when they start to open up again. Cause they now have utilized all skills I used to have, I used to do yeah. That was just like, I don't really want to applying for these jobs that there aren't any, there are many, there are not many jobs Zoe and I wasn't even passionate about it. And I thought what could I be doing? And I thought let me just try out. And I did a couple of like beta groups a couple of hours, a workshop. I think the first one was just one hour just to see if I liked. And it was donation only. And I think I had four women. And it was like in may or something. And I really enjoyed it and I thought, let me try a bit more. And it's because of how that happened. And then I started to go, okay how do I, decorticate, like how do I. Almost like socially, go in and go, how did I do this? And what are the things that I learned? And what's, how do you move forward? Where do you start? And what are the milestones? And that's how I happened. And I'm really glad, like I really love it. So this has been, so it's happened out of a

[00:12:37] Russ Johns: And then this is the mother of necessity.

[00:12:39] Angie S: It wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. But it wasn't just, it wasn't enough to pay the bills when I started, but it's yeah, it happened because I had to do something and it turned out. I actually would enjoy it. If I think it's a pandemic had not happened, I would probably have. Yeah maybe that's a bit too soon to be teaching it. I didn't feel it. Maybe I wouldn't have had it done it long enough, but as that, I still had quite a bit, a good show. I still have a lot to learn and but there's definitely things that I could definitely teach. So that has been very satisfying.

[00:13:10] Russ Johns: The beautiful thing about teaching is no matter where you are, there's going to be somebody that knows a little bit more than what you know, And there's somebody that's going to need your help because they don't know what you know. So that's the gorgeous thing about teaching and having the opportunity to teach is there's always going to be an opportunity out there. Cause people gravitate toward, people they resonate with, it's okay we can be teaching the exact same class and some people are. You want to be you to be the teacher and instructor. And some people would want to want an old guy like me to be teaching this. I don't know. It's just a difference. And the reality is we can all provide a little bit of information in the gift of teaching. So that's off to you. That's awesome. How did we, how do you. Did we meet on a matchmaker FM?

[00:14:03] Angie S: I'm on Matchmaker FM, too. Yeah. Yes, probably. I think you may have popped up on the mailing list for shows to apply to. And I think that's how I found you. Maybe that's why I would imagine, cause I never searched in Matchmaker, but I do look at the emails.

[00:14:24] Russ Johns: Yeah. I often wonder how people, cause I get a lot of requests to be on the show and it's by the time you get on the show, it's not always, it's like, how did we connect? Yeah. But it's always fun to discover how the journey unfolds. And so you're going to be teaching classes. You're going to be teaching courses. You're going to be learning and possibly even producing some shows, it sounds.

[00:14:49] Angie S: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:51] Russ Johns: If you ever want to talk about it, I'll be happy to have a conversation about that.

[00:14:55] Angie S: So what it says, cause you said you were seekers, you do the video, you help people to market with video. And that stuff is something that I need to, that I've been saying to myself, you do more with audio, I don't like. Oh, and it's but it's obviously helps to get people to get to know you a little bit.

[00:15:13] Russ Johns: Yeah. Video is the quickest way to accelerate your visibility into the, to the whatever market you want to do. It qualifies people and allows them to actually get to know you quicker. So it's okay, if you're ready or you're not here I am. And we can do that. So I'll send you an invitation to the next. The next webinar I have going on. And of course for that too.

[00:15:39] Angie S: Okay. Because cause it's, cause I've been thinking that I feel like YouTube cause podcasts what's great is, it, there is some SEO behind it. Like you can search podcasts for Google, you can find things, it's it's searchable and YouTube is as well. And I thought I'd been wasting my time with Instagram and Facebook posts, posts like you can't search them. You have to know where you go and things.

[00:15:58] Russ Johns: I have a solution for you. We'll talk about it, but you can actually crowdcast.io. I'm doing webinars all the time. I just did one yesterday. Okay. I'm going to schedule another one. So stay tuned on crowdcast.io. Crowdcast is a platform that I've been using for years to actually do webinars and share information OSI and the team over there. I've met them and hanging out with them on occasion. But the reality is we have an opportunity Angie, to, to kind of mold our own future. And I think that's what you discovered along your journey, as well as Hey, here's something I'm interested in. Here's something I enjoyed doing and here's something that I could...

[00:16:41] Angie S: Yeah. And that's actually a joke. I do enjoy teaching. I don't like the word teaching because it makes me think of like I'm at school and it wasn't necessarily a time like was, and it was good or enjoy it. Maybe I was just like, you put something what to do, but taking them what to do, but also why we need love is like seeing them getting it and then doing it on their own. And it's like when you teach, like you. Community of future peers. And I think that's just that guess that's the exciting bit because otherwise podcasting can be so isolating cause you behind you microphone a laptop and that's it.

[00:17:12] Russ Johns: Yeah, it is. And it can be isolating for those that may not necessarily need to. A crowd or an audience, a live audience, it's a good option. However, having guests like with the #PirateBroadcast interviewing interesting people, doing interesting things, you fit into that category. So it's a pretty broad category. Yeah, however, it's always fascinating to me. And I've always been curious about, okay how did you evolve into doing this and where are you going with it? And what's the driver behind it. And everybody that can hear you, there might be somebody out there that says, wow, that sounds fascinating. I think I could probably try that out. And then maybe they connect with you, on LinkedIn. Or Facebook or YouTube or Twitter or Twitch or wherever they find you.

[00:18:02] Angie S: Just not Snapchat. I don't know what Snapchat is. I still don't get it. I've never even looked at the app. It's still around. I don't even know, but yeah. I don't do Tik Tok, either.

[00:18:13] Russ Johns: Yeah. I don't do tick tock. I have an account, I have an account, but it's there's just too many things. There's just too many things. Yeah. So I'm going to, I'm going to stick with video and one of the platforms that I love and I'm teaching a course on how to use video to actually engage and accelerate the conversation, because it takes a conversation to, to move business forward. And I have booked hundreds of calls. Maybe thousands of calls using dub and some of the platforms and the process that I use. So it's really important to, to share this information. Now, Gabe has a question. How do you feel about being called an instructor? Or the dictator of podcasting development or the czar of podcasts interpretation.

[00:19:03] Angie S: I'm assuming that's for you, Russ.. You can call me the Empress.

[00:19:11] Russ Johns: No, they call me the Admiral. The #PirateBroadcast, I'm the Admiral.

[00:19:16] Angie S: The captain.

[00:19:17] Russ Johns: Captain of the ship, yeah. But it's fun. So what else can you tell us about podcasting? What's your favorite mic?

[00:19:23] Angie S: Actually I want to go and buy the Shure one soon, but at the moment I'm still using the mic that I was using when I first started, which was the a it's the snowball, the blue snowball. I have one around here somewhere, and that's still the same one I use. And the thing with this one, because it's a condenser mic, you just have to know how to do your settings. And it may not be suitable for all the rooms, but my room is. As you can see is not made for sound. It's there's no doors is a lot of windows and I've got a vode right next to me. But if you know how to do the settings on there, especially your gain, and then you know how to do the mastering afterwards in the software. Yeah, that's the one I'm using. So to say, which one is my favorite is difficult. Cause I've only have this one, but I definitely want to get the Shure, I think it's the MV7 not that one because that when you need extra equipment for that one, so it's it's almost 700 quid. But the other one is the MV seven, which the sound is about just as good. It's only 220 and it's plug and play USB. And apparently like the sound from what I can from, I can see and understand is that it's almost as good as the other one, which is the XLR. But yes, that's the one I want to go for next. Yeah.

[00:20:35] Russ Johns: I'm a huge fan of Rode mics. I liked the Rode mic,, they have the pod chaser, podcaster. They have one that's USB and they have a one that's XLR. I have an XLR, I have auto technica but and it's just a mic selection, I like the RE20. That's a great mic. It's a little more expensive, but you find it in a lot of recording studios.

[00:20:56] Angie S: Which one did you say? I couldn't hear you.

[00:20:58] Russ Johns: It's the Auto Technica RE20. It's in the SM7B family.

[00:21:06] Angie S: Is it XLR as well?

[00:21:08] Russ Johns: XLR, correct? Yeah. We could nerd out on microphones and everything like that. Hiett Ives is here from Houston. Hello, fellow pirates, Admiral Russ. Great show. Thank you so much for being here. Morning. He says this is the beauty of life. And as you just going to say, it's something that you could do, and it's something that you can actually put in place. And then every episode of the #PirateBroadcast™, and this is what I produced for the #PirateSyndicate is Tracie my producer, I love her. She's awesome. And she takes this and she takes the audio and that goes to a podcast. I use Spreaker.

[00:21:54] Angie S: Spreakers very Good, actually. Yeah. I like them actually. I haven't commend them and captivate for hoists. Those are the only two that I recommend. I've researched a lot. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. And you can have a dynamic ads, which is really good for people when they start out to make money.

[00:22:12] Russ Johns: But so then the podcast comes out and then the she creates the transcription for the post and then it's a post on RussJohns.com..

[00:22:20] Angie S: And you repurpose it quite well. So video, audio and transcripts. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Good information.

[00:22:28] Russ Johns: And once you get that traffic circle going with words, images, audio, and video, that's really handy. Just saying. It's really fun to be here. Thank you so much for being here too. And so where can people find you? Let me say Angie-s.com?

[00:22:50] Angie S: Yeah. Angie-s.com

[00:22:53] Russ Johns: And then also you're doing learnpodcasting.onlne. Fantastic.

[00:23:06] Angie S: Thank you Russ.

[00:23:08] Russ Johns: Thank you so much for being here. I really appreciate your attending. Yes. So we're going to be doing this and wrapping up, and I just appreciate the fact that you're here, Angie and sharing your information. And if anybody's out there that listens later, connect with Angie. Tell her you're a pirate and let her know that you're you want to connect and start a conversation up, learn about podcasting, learn about live stream. And as always, I'm going to be producing another webinar tomorrow afternoon. So sign up for that. And I'm going to be sharing some updated information on the course that will be released at the end of the month. And also the #PirateSyndicate, if you feel or know somebody or you need some help with producing a show, a live stream or an event or anything like that, let me know. I'd love to help you out and produce something that you can you can come back to every time and you can share it with your community and your audience and everything else that goes along with that. #PirateSyndicate™, Russ Johns, you can find this. You can track us down all of the socials, all that kind of good stuff. Angie, thank you. It's been a pleasure.

[00:24:15] Angie S: Thank you. And I thank you for having me. It's been fun. Thank you.

[00:24:18] Russ Johns: And we all have this because #kindnessiscool and #smilesarefree and you #enjoytheday. Take care. Bye.

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